Lately I have been fighting this idea of religious fantasy spinning. It’s funny, how often lately I have heard “Well God never gives us more than we can handle”. Personally, I think that whole idea is a crock. That and the “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”. What about What doesn’t kill you, doesn’t kill you, and more often than not, leaves you apathetic and weaker than if the attempt on your life was never made.
See, I have always had this karmic dispute with myself. People always say, it “It was meant to be”. I personally have become more used to this idea of there is no such thing as fate and destiny in the most common way that people think about it. Like, it was meant to happen. How about it happened because something had to happen. I do believe in the concept of energy, yes, and I do believe more often than not what you put out is what you get back. I do not for a second, however, believe there is some all knowing energy force, aka GOD that keeps a tally of your good and bad deeds and only hands down hardships to those who can handle it. What exactly does handling it really mean anyways? Does it mean it doesn’t literally kill you? Does it mean that if you are able to utter words after your trauma that you have somehow been saved? I don’t think so. I think what doesn’t kill you might not actually kill you. You may appear stronger for it, and compared to the sunshine and rainbows lives of some of those around you, you might actually appear superhuman. But make no mistake, there is a crunching, like bones breaking, of the spirit when traumatized to the point of never being the same again.
Never being the same again. Yeah, I’ll give you “I handled it, much as I have handled much of my life” simply because I am still breathing. But to say, and to ignorantly claim that life hands you fucking flowers simply because you are too weak to handle it might be one of the most ridiculous things ever. I was talking to E’s mother about this. Telling her I had reservations about that idea that “God” somehow gave me this to make me stronger. I told her I am not too into that idea, because I have spent much of my life not handling it, therefore not handling myself, just examining the broken pieces every once in a while like some kind of bizarre peacock. Instinct, that variable called self-preservation is the one and only thing that has kept me on this “plane of existence” for as long as I have.
I was watching Bill Maher talk about this last night. And he is seriously brilliant, talking about how Bush considers this idea of Adam and Eve and the fantastical bullshit that Mr. Thunderclap made man with some mud and dirt to be worth teaching in schools alongside evolutionary theory. And he made reference to believing in some ways about the…and I forget the terminology to the religious theory, but–he believes that man descended from god…and that yes, god was a monkey.
I wonder if people actually embraced science as fact how they would react to the idea that evolution is a given evident with the continuance of life how they would actually have the balls to justify this mythical Adam and Eve situation. Of course, it would only take one monkey man and one monkey woman to spawn life that would continue and continue and continue on indefinitely. But much like frogs and small creatures and adapt to the environment and evolve to the point where they can can continue on as species , we have as well. See: appendix, wisdom teeth.
Regardless, I am actually thankful to my mother for one thing: not brainwashing me and filling my brain with absolute crap to this idea of “White dude with beard:God” spawning life and all of this other stuff people fight and kill for. I have always considered the religion of energy and consulted some religious texts, though buddhist in nature, for philosophies about living life. The only issue I have with them, and specifically, the tibetan book of living and dying, is that they all think every moment you spend on earth is in preparation for your dying. I’m not a big fan of that one. But any religious texts I have ever referred to were in reference to fables and tales spun to teach moral lessons. And I actually am thankful of the brilliance of early governing bodies, ie the bible and any other religious texts that have kept man in line. But I am more thankful that it taught the masses common sense and mutual courtesy “Do not kill, etc”. Because it seems that without it, and without people’s strong beliefs in those directions, people would be popping off left and right. Because everyone needs something to live for and something to look forward to. Even if its this idea that you fluff and pop around on white clouds with harps after your body ceases to be.
August 20, 2005 at 3:07 pm
Cheerio Cheerio
Even if its this idea that you fluff and pop around on white clouds with harps after your body ceases to be.”
That last line was classic. Being a believer in Heaven and Hell, Christ as The Sacrifice for Man’s Fall, and also being accepting of everyone’s differing views of what this life is, I can only think how surprised you will be when you actually do die. I can safely venture to say that you can say the same thing for me. I wonder though, in all seriousness, if when it is all over here and we are all in the spiritual realm, will I be able to find you, share a smile with you and talk with you. You, specifically. Oh, the things we humans do not know.
August 20, 2005 at 3:25 pm
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Surprised? I think everyone will be surprised. Being that I do believe in the concept of energy, and basic physics “energy cannot be created or destroyed”, I would suspect that certain elements of our being (energy or soul, be it as it may) can and may outlast the last beating of our hearts. As in, I do believe in and have experienced paranormal activity in person, with two people on livejournal, as a matter of fact. I do not go so far as to say that had anything to do with “God or Jesus”, but simply a matter of fact. I believe energy can and does sustain. And also given the basic physical principles of having several dimmensions not recognizable to the human eyes, I would say there is for sure something to be said about that. I just don’t feel as if those planes, or dimmensions as they were, have anything to do with the bible at all.
I think that, and I feel redundancy in this statement, that it is a unique perspective, our rights as americans to believe what we want and even be able to utter it in public forums such as this.
And I do believe you definitely believe what you believe wholeheartedly. And I support you for that.
“The things we humans do not know”. And certainly, as a human rooted in this plane, no one knows anything about any such “Heaven or Hell”, or even that this idea of Jesus being the sacrifice for man’s fall. Because, as we all know, none of us was there. And I wouldn’t even go so far as to say such a character didn’t exist in history. I do know, however, with technologies being as they were, non-existent at that time, that much like the game “telephone” things get warped and disfigured over time.
Though, I would suspect that the insinuation that I would not be enjoying that plane of energy with you simply because I denounce that idea is pretty silly.
August 20, 2005 at 3:59 pm
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lol..wow. i wasnt going for a whole dissection of compared religion.
only thing i can say is you dont know what i know or dont know. and i dont know what you know or dont know. i may very well know about heaven and hell. you would not be able to know unless you existed in my slice of energy pie and vice versa.
August 20, 2005 at 4:04 pm
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True that.
Everyone’s got their own thing to live for.
I just live for me is all…
And I have slipped into “death” more times than you would like to know.
At least in the classic physical sense, the heart stopped, brain slowed kind of death they sign on death certificates.
Sorry. I like discussions. And plus, you seem to be the only one awake today. Whoops!~~~~
August 20, 2005 at 4:28 pm
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i like what i said, the whole energy pie thing. that was cool…have to use that somewhere….
August 20, 2005 at 4:00 pm
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I also forgot.
I totally just remembered as I was painting I am not allowed to your party afterwards because I am banned from it given I have not embraced “HIM”.
Oh well. You are still invited to come to mine. Be it as it may, that is one of the most insane things about religion: all of these rules about who’s invited.
I invite everyone. Because we are all cut from the same stuff. And I don’t care what rules you have. Mine aren’t like that.
So take note everyone!!! You are ALL invited to my party afterwards. No matter what you believe.
August 20, 2005 at 4:27 pm
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Mmm, I am not from the school that you are not invited. Lovingly said, I do not like being put in a basket of believers. I’m Kathryn. I have a relationship with Jesus…and to my knowledge, I never said you weren’t invited…
August 20, 2005 at 5:11 pm
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Thanks man.
You might be one of the more welcoming ones….mostly I have always been met with hostility.
So thank you, Kathryn. I am Deanna. But you probably knew that already.
😉
August 20, 2005 at 8:26 pm
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Francis:
Kathryn is awesome.
But I have a feeling you are already beginning to see this.
I love you, Francissssssssss. And my stomach hurts. : /
I am going to lay down with a book until the urge to heave passes.
Love Always,
This Francis
August 20, 2005 at 3:28 pm
I think it might be a total of 10, or 11
Dimmensions. We are aware of three, I believe. That leaves quite a bit of room for interpretation, and even more room for possibility.
August 21, 2005 at 1:14 am
Re: I think it might be a total of 10, or 11
12. There are 12 dimensions.
We are aware of 4: 3 spatial, and the 4th [temporal] dimension.
Then there are 6 more + 2…something.
I have it in a book around here somewhere…
*Goes to look for said book*
August 21, 2005 at 4:01 am
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you go francis. Someone mentioned to me the theory of 12 once.
dimension spinning francessa.
Love to you.